Kamptråd Champions league kval. runde 2: AGF - Lech Poznan, tirsdag 21. Juli kl 19.00

[SteenA]

Så synes jeg, at du skal gense kampen

Han tager tre hjørnespark. De to af dem pisser han væk.
Han tager et frispark på et halvfarligt sted. Den pisser han også væk.

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For mig at se, har han to gode, alternative, hjørnespark ud af tre. Omtrent det samme antal vellykkede hjørnespark, som vi præsterede i hele foråret, hvor Links af en eller anden grund altid skulle tage dem. I træningskampene har vi også set Sebastian Jørgensen så nogle gode hjørnespark.

 

[andrewdk]

Hvis folk ikke er bange for at drikke øl i Nyhavn når vi møder FCK, så bør de heller ikke være bange for at drikke øl i Poznans gamle bydel, hvor vi formodentlig alle naturligt kommer til at holde til.

 

[poznaniak]

men hvis det så går, som det gjorde i foråret, så vinder vi 0-4 i Polen

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No, you won't win.

I don't want to crush your dreams, but no one in Poland is assuming Lech won't advance. We'll play a completely different game at home. We might give you the ball for the first 15-20 minutes so you can run around and get tired. And then players with a history of being in the TOP5 will score 2-3 goals.

The stadium will be so noisy you'll barely hear your own cheering. We have a large stadium with a capacity of 43,000. In 2012, this stadium hosted the EURO 2012 participants. We currently have around 35,000 tickets sold. We'll be screaming for 90 minutes.

The Polish Football Association allows any team playing in European qualifying to suspend any two league matches. Lech is so confident that they haven't suspended the match they'll be playing on Saturday.

The Polish runner-up, playing Galatasaray (they lost 1-0 in the first leg), is postponing their league match. We are not. Frederiksen believes that each additional match played will better prepare us for the season.

A draw will be a major disappointment. As a national association, we want to finish 10th in Europe this season, which automatically guarantees the Polish champions a spot in the Champions League. This is our big goal, which everyone understands and is working towards. Losing ranking points would be met with enormous criticism. Every point is important, so we won't field our reserves, we won't play our youth, we won't give up.

This is our stadium setup from three years ago. We DREAM of the Champions League, because in the entire history of Polish football, only two teams have ever played in the Champions League, and the last time was 10 years ago.

 

[Uglen]

No, you won't win.

I don't want to crush your dreams, but no one in Poland is assuming Lech won't advance. We'll play a completely different game at home. We might give you the ball for the first 15-20 minutes so you can run around and get tired. And then players with a history of being in the TOP5 will score 2-3 goals.

The stadium will be so noisy you'll barely hear your own cheering. We have a large stadium with a capacity of 43,000. In 2012, this stadium hosted the EURO 2012 participants. We currently have around 35,000 tickets sold. We'll be screaming for 90 minutes.

The Polish Football Association allows any team playing in European qualifying to suspend any two league matches. Lech is so confident that they haven't suspended the match they'll be playing on Saturday.

The Polish runner-up, playing Galatasaray (they lost 1-0 in the first leg), is postponing their league match. We are not. Frederiksen believes that each additional match played will better prepare us for the season.

A draw will be a major disappointment. As a national association, we want to finish 10th in Europe this season, which automatically guarantees the Polish champions a spot in the Champions League. This is our big goal, which everyone understands and is working towards. Losing ranking points would be met with enormous criticism. Every point is important, so we won't field our reserves, we won't play our youth, we won't give up.

This is our stadium setup from three years ago. We DREAM of the Champions League, because in the entire history of Polish football, only two teams have ever played in the Champions League, and the last time was 10 years ago.

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I dont want to crush your illusions but you clearly do not understand danish irony. No one believes we are going to win 4-0.

 

[Næst' År!]

Hvis folk ikke er bange for at drikke øl i Nyhavn når vi møder FCK, så bør de heller ikke være bange for at drikke øl i Poznans gamle bydel, hvor vi formodentlig alle naturligt kommer til at holde til.

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I klubtrøjer uden ballade?

 

[Engdal93]

No, you won't win.

I don't want to crush your dreams, but no one in Poland is assuming Lech won't advance. We'll play a completely different game at home. We might give you the ball for the first 15-20 minutes so you can run around and get tired. And then players with a history of being in the TOP5 will score 2-3 goals.

The stadium will be so noisy you'll barely hear your own cheering. We have a large stadium with a capacity of 43,000. In 2012, this stadium hosted the EURO 2012 participants. We currently have around 35,000 tickets sold. We'll be screaming for 90 minutes.

The Polish Football Association allows any team playing in European qualifying to suspend any two league matches. Lech is so confident that they haven't suspended the match they'll be playing on Saturday.

The Polish runner-up, playing Galatasaray (they lost 1-0 in the first leg), is postponing their league match. We are not. Frederiksen believes that each additional match played will better prepare us for the season.

A draw will be a major disappointment. As a national association, we want to finish 10th in Europe this season, which automatically guarantees the Polish champions a spot in the Champions League. This is our big goal, which everyone understands and is working towards. Losing ranking points would be met with enormous criticism. Every point is important, so we won't field our reserves, we won't play our youth, we won't give up.

This is our stadium setup from three years ago. We DREAM of the Champions League, because in the entire history of Polish football, only two teams have ever played in the Champions League, and the last time was 10 years ago.

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As another user mentioned, it was meant as a joke… nobody thinks that we are going to win 4-0. But maybe 5-0… see what I did there?

 

[andrewdk]

I klubtrøjer uden ballade?

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Det vil jeg påstå, hvis man kommer med godt humør og bare vil have øl.
Folk der gerne vil stå i grupper og synge højlydt mod modstanderen, vil selvfølgelig altid kunne virke som en rød klud mod nogle af deres fans.

 

[poznaniak]

I dont want to crush your illusions but you clearly do not understand danish irony

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Now I understand why Niels fit in so well with us.

 

[poznaniak]

Did you know that in Poland we know and love old Danish comedies from the "Olsen-Banden" series?

 

[Holmertz]

Hører mediano med et halvt øre.
Rasmus Monnerup frikender AJ. Det røde kort er Gift Links fejl. Palma er GLs mand, hvilket AJ åbenbart også signalere til GL.
Målet til 1-0 er et skævvredet forsvar, fordi Tingager er for langt til venstre. Hvis AJ havde skubbet op på Ishak, så var der åbnet et rum ned midt i banen, hvor en af de øvrige polske spillere kom løbende. AJ gjorde det rigtige, fordi han dækkede midten af og samtidig kun levnede en mulighed til Ishak, og den udnyttede han desværre så.
Jeg er ikke fan af AJ, men tankevækkende er det da.

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Altid fedt med noget eksternt ekspert input. Jeg fik selv Steffen Dams take på kampen i dag og selv om han bestemt ikke er fan af AJ, så er han heller ikke så hård ift. målet. Ja, han er for langt fra Ishak og for passiv, men han lukker den ene side af målet for en afslutning, så han syntes også en god del af skylden lå hos JH, der ikke rigtigt følger med over og får positioneret sig ordentligt ift. at Ishak nærmest kun kan afslutte der hvor han gør.

Han er i øvrigt ekstremt positiv over for Callø, som han har set meget for Fremad. Så lidt en bet at han er blevet skadet.

 

[Engdal93]

Hører mediano med et halvt øre.
Rasmus Monnerup frikender AJ. Det røde kort er Gift Links fejl. Palma er GLs mand, hvilket AJ åbenbart også signalere til GL.
Målet til 1-0 er et skævvredet forsvar, fordi Tingager er for langt til venstre. Hvis AJ havde skubbet op på Ishak, så var der åbnet et rum ned midt i banen, hvor en af de øvrige polske spillere kom løbende. AJ gjorde det rigtige, fordi han dækkede midten af og samtidig kun levnede en mulighed til Ishak, og den udnyttede han desværre så.
Jeg er ikke fan af AJ, men tankevækkende er det da.

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Monnerups pointe med, at man stiller for høje krav til spillere, som har siddet ude i længere tid, synes jeg også er ret relevant. Kan man forvente at timing er der efter et år med kun én kamp, hvor man starter inde? Vi bliver måske nødt til at give det lidt tid… man kan bare se på Tingager, som også var meget rusten i foråret, da han kom tilbage. Men fordi man giver ham tillid og acceptere kampe med mistiming (FCN…), så er han tilbage på sit høje niveau. Måske AJ ikke er tabt endnu.

 

[Holmertz]

Monnerups pointe med, at man stiller for høje krav til spillere, som har siddet ude i længere tid, synes jeg også er ret relevant. Kan man forvente at timing er der efter et år med kun én kamp, hvor man starter inde? Vi bliver måske nødt til at give det lidt tid… man kan bare se på Tingager, som også var meget rusten i foråret, da han kom tilbage. Men fordi man giver ham tillid og acceptere kampe med mistiming (FCN…), så er han tilbage på sit høje niveau. Måske AJ ikke er tabt endnu.

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Det skal man naturligvis have respekt for og det er svært for alle i de første par kampe i en ny sæson. Bliver tit lidt noget underligt fodbold.

Men der er også et element i fodbold der handler om at gribe chancen når den er der. Og det har AJ i den grad forsømt. Han har fået relativt mange chancer for at spille sig tættere på holdet og hver gang har han fejlet. Og så er snoren bare ikke længere i topfodbold.

Så tror han skal tage et skridt ned for at finde et hold der vil satse på ham og så satse på at bygge niveauet op derfra. Men et tophold i superligaen er niveauet bare ikke til lige nu.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Det vil jeg påstå, hvis man kommer med godt humør og bare vil have øl.
Folk der gerne vil stå i grupper og synge højlydt mod modstanderen, vil selvfølgelig altid kunne virke som en rød klud mod nogle af deres fans.

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Efter gårsdagens opgør gik vi langs Viborgvej og forsøgte i den forbindelse at gratulere de polske fans, der kom gående den modsatte vej. Det var der slet ikke stemning for, og da min kammerat blev slået ud af kurs af et skulderskub fra en polsk grovfrands, opgav vi det.

Fem minutter efter lå der en gut midt på vejen foran vores bil, som blev trampet i hovedet af fem polske hooligans. Han var i øvrigt dum nok til selv at have startet konfrontationen.

Jeg vil kraftigt anbefale alle at blive hjemme, men tager man afsted, kan man godt forberede sig på at være på absolut udebane. Jeg skulle i hvert fald ikke nyde noget af at stå eller gå i nærheden af vores pyrotosser. Det ender helt galt, hvis ikke med hooligans så med knippelsuppe. De aner ikke, hvad de går ind til dernede. Men måske det kan blive en nyttig lektion.

Og skulle miraklet ske, at kampen forløber uden problemer, skal man være forberedt på først at blive lukket ud, når morgenholdet møder ind for at rydde op på tribunerne. Det var det, Silkeborgs fans blev budt, da de spillede dernede (EDIT: I POLEN) . Forfærdeligt sted.

 

[Thomas K]

Monnerups pointe med, at man stiller for høje krav til spillere, som har siddet ude i længere tid, synes jeg også er ret relevant. Kan man forvente at timing er der efter et år med kun én kamp, hvor man starter inde? Vi bliver måske nødt til at give det lidt tid… man kan bare se på Tingager, som også var meget rusten i foråret, da han kom tilbage. Men fordi man giver ham tillid og acceptere kampe med mistiming (FCN…), så er han tilbage på sit høje niveau. Måske AJ ikke er tabt endnu.

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Jeg tror det er den store frustration hos nogle, mig selv inklusive.

Forventede CV og JP at AJ ville kunne løse opgaven? Mit umiddelbare gæt er nej.

Forventer CV, at JP pludselig begynder at bruge AJ fast, eller bliver han igen en meget perifær spiller. Mit umiddelbare gæt er nej.

Forventer CV og JP reelt, at 4-5 kampe i træk til AJ vil flytte ham til en højre stopper på et niveau der minder om dét vi har sagt farvel til? Mit umiddelbare gæt er nej.

Så vi bruger værdifuld spilletid på en spiller som jeg, umiddelbart, ikke tror hverken CV eller JP har den store tiltro til - det var der til Tingager

 

[poznaniak]

Efter gårsdagens opgør gik vi langs Viborgvej og forsøgte i den forbindelse at gratulere de polske fans, der kom gående den modsatte vej. Det var der slet ikke stemning for, og da min kammerat blev slået ud af kurs af et skulderskub fra en polsk grovfrands, opgav vi det.

Fem minutter efter lå der en gut midt på vejen foran vores bil, som blev trampet i hovedet af fem polske hooligans. Han var i øvrigt dum nok til selv at have startet konfrontationen.

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Sorry to hear that.

Og skulle miraklet ske, at kampen forløber uden problemer, skal man være forberedt på først at blive lukket ud, når morgenholdet møder ind for at rydde op på tribunerne. Det var det, Silkeborgs fans blev budt, da de spillede dernede. Forfærdeligt sted.

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Silkeborg NEVER played Lech Poznań.

I checked and they played Jagiellonia Białystok in August 2025. The information about fans being restricted from the stadium is a lie. Silkeborg fans were asked to stay inside the stadium for 20-30 minutes for safety reasons. That's all.

Białystok is a city half the size of Poznań. Their stadium is an old structure from the 1970s. I've never been there, but I can imagine it might not meet current safety standards.

The Lech Poznań stadium was thoroughly modernized and expanded for EURO 2012. It's one of the most modern and largest stadiums in Poland. The away stand is separated by buffer zones and has a separate, protected entrance leading to a completely different location from the other stands. If necessary, police can protect away fans.

I don't think they'll set off any pyrotechnics at the stadium during the ultras, as UEFA fines them, including closing the stands.

I've been going to the stadium for about 15 years, and I have a seat near the away stand. I have a season ticket and attend about 25 matches a season (league and cups). I once experienced a brawl at the stadium when visiting fans started shooting flares and throwing firecrackers at us. But those were fans who were in an open war with Lech's ultras.

In Poland, fights are practically nonexistent at matches. If two teams want to test their mettle, they handle their business outside the stadium.

 

[Winther]

No, you won't win.

I don't want to crush your dreams, but no one in Poland is assuming Lech won't advance. We'll play a completely different game at home. We might give you the ball for the first 15-20 minutes so you can run around and get tired. And then players with a history of being in the TOP5 will score 2-3 goals.

The stadium will be so noisy you'll barely hear your own cheering. We have a large stadium with a capacity of 43,000. In 2012, this stadium hosted the EURO 2012 participants. We currently have around 35,000 tickets sold. We'll be screaming for 90 minutes.

The Polish Football Association allows any team playing in European qualifying to suspend any two league matches. Lech is so confident that they haven't suspended the match they'll be playing on Saturday.

The Polish runner-up, playing Galatasaray (they lost 1-0 in the first leg), is postponing their league match. We are not. Frederiksen believes that each additional match played will better prepare us for the season.

A draw will be a major disappointment. As a national association, we want to finish 10th in Europe this season, which automatically guarantees the Polish champions a spot in the Champions League. This is our big goal, which everyone understands and is working towards. Losing ranking points would be met with enormous criticism. Every point is important, so we won't field our reserves, we won't play our youth, we won't give up.

This is our stadium setup from three years ago. We DREAM of the Champions League, because in the entire history of Polish football, only two teams have ever played in the Champions League, and the last time was 10 years ago.

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I think some cockiness is fine after a big win, regardless of it being achieved by great efficiency and a goalkeeper getting sent off for the first time in a 100 year long career. From my seat it was clear enough, even before the first goals and the red card, that Lech should at least win on aggregate. Apparently the AGF team needs a bit of rework after losing a couple of key players, they were too easily put under pressure and some decisive errors followed from that. Obviously Lech should be favorites anyway, but a big loss in Randers was a bit unnecessary.

AGF is still just re-establishing itself as one of the top teams in the Danish league, still far behind financially, the team isn't completely ready for European football yet and obviously handicapped this season by not being able to play at home, so a rematch in some years could be interesting.

Good luck in getting to the league phase - perhaps some luck in the draw for the playoff can settle it.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

checked and they played Jagiellonia Białystok in August 2025. The information about fans being restricted from the stadium is a lie. Silkeborg fans were asked to stay inside the stadium for 20-30 minutes for safety reasons. That's all.

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I do not lie, and it looks like you're not getting the meaning of what I said.

They played in Poland, and couldn't leave the stadium for hours after the game. This is a fact. Don't try and sugarcoat it. It's not safe for away fans at all. Poland is the hooligan capital of the world, even selling hooligan shit to all of Europe.

And I'm talking about our idiots. They'll fire their shit before, during, and after the game, and it's gonna be trouble.

 

[Winther]

Jeg havde i øvrigt primært udsigt til AGF's problemer i højre forsvarsside i første halvleg og selvom det er umuligt ikke at være kritisk overfor AJ var det vel også deres mere eller mindre bedste spiller der kom i den side og ikke altid med den bedste opbakning fra Links. Andre hold vil nok også udse sig det som et svagt punkt så hvis AJ skal have nogle kampe skal man måske prøve at justere så der er lidt ekstra opbakning.

 

[aarhusianeren]

Efter gårsdagens opgør gik vi langs Viborgvej og forsøgte i den forbindelse at gratulere de polske fans, der kom gående den modsatte vej. Det var der slet ikke stemning for, og da min kammerat blev slået ud af kurs af et skulderskub fra en polsk grovfrands, opgav vi det.

Fem minutter efter lå der en gut midt på vejen foran vores bil, som blev trampet i hovedet af fem polske hooligans. Han var i øvrigt dum nok til selv at have startet konfrontationen.

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Øv at være førstehånds vidne til det, håber din kammerat er okay, det kan være en voldsom oplevelse.

Jeg havde parkeret stort set ude foran stadion, tæt på noget Wellness halløj, og vi var tæt nok på til vi kunne høre og se da politiet kom løbende mod Viborgvej. Imens jeg sad i bilen og ventede på at kunne komme ud af parkeringspladsen, så jeg flere AGF fans med lav IQ, som gjorde et alt hvad de kunne for at provokere de polske fans. Jeg lagde især mærke til en gruppe på ca 3-4 unge GF'ere som løb hen imod en gruppe polske fans og gestikulerede voldsomt.

På parkeringspladsen var vi desuden et godt mix af polske fans og GFere, men her forløb det egentlig ret stille og roligt. Enkelte havde fået for meget af det gode og forsøgte at spille op, men det var overordnet styr på det.

Det mest mærkværdige jeg var vidne til var dog en kvinde, som mente hun havde forkørselsret, hun tog åbenlyst fejl og de andre bilister holdte på deres ret. Hun begyndte at skælde ud på en taxachauffør og det endte med at hun åbnede døren og råbte "POLITI?!", og løb hen til en betjent. Jeg gik derfra uden traumer, men med et smøret grin